Victoria begins Trots Vision

[Amlin]

https://www.thetrots.com.au/racing/live-trots-vision/

Big news Kev

[Messenger]

It is biggish news Kyle but you know what a spoilt brat I am - I want full HD on my large screen TV (like Thoroughbred Central - with the interviews etc too)

ps I have followed your link and there is 6 min until I see R4 from Geelong - I am expecting it to be like watching when logged onto Sky through your TAB account

One plus - I won't need foxtel Sky2 sub for when they shaft us

[Messenger]

Well that was pretty dam good. It looked pretty good too on full screen on my desktop (60cm diagonal screen). No quick cut off for a bloody dogs race - plenty of time for Dan to give all the details and footage of the horses returning

It would be good to have it available in full HD (1080) for those who are happy to wear the bigger download (I know Mediatec can do full HD as I have seen it broadcast on track on the replay TV)
I can understand why the screen then reverts to a countdown to the next race (as many people do not want to use up all their data) but vision of the horses pre race in the parade ring would be great and one day soon this may be our own trots channel with interviews and the works. :D

Now I hope to see ads promoting the exclusive trots vision so that trots fanatics know they do not have to wear the barrage called Sky1

[Messenger]

The release

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/articles/trots-vision-a-new-way-to-watch-the-trots/

including

"Media will announce new exciting programming initiatives to be viewed between live race coverage."

“Phase two of the project will see Trots Vision able to deliver other content via the streaming service, including a range of editorial programs, allowing us to tell the great harness stories around our people, ownership, breeding, HRV HERO, racing, wagering and of course our champion horses.”

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/articles/trots-vision-a-new-way-to-watch-the-trots/

[aussiebreno]

Excellent !

[Amlin]

Saw one race of the coverage tonight and looked great. It will be good to tune into when out and about and you want to catch a race.

There will be an expanded coverage in future pre and post races and meetings I am sure, this is the way of the future!

[KTQ]

Is this just for VIC? It'd be great to have one system for all of Australia - there's too much fragmentation

[gutwagon]

Looks like a good idea with a lot of potential .

[Toohard]

This is a great step forward I reckon and well done to HRV. Getting the rights the rights to the vision a huge win.

VIC now has its own spot to showcase the sport without having to worry about dogs and gallops. Told that breaks between races will be used in time and even breaks between meetings. Interviews, stories and live vision all in one place and all 100% VIC trots. Watched on phone and PC for a bit last night and looked OK. Have to order one of them 'smart' TV's!!

Sky's the limit!! Rather than SKY being limiting..

Great work HRV!!

[David Martin]

Hi everyone,


Really pleased that you're all enjoying Trots Vision (TV). It was particularly pleasing to see the last races at Mildura that overlapped with the first races at Melton last night. At one stage the TV transitioned from the end of a Rob Auber trackside interview straight to Craig Rail introducing horses on the track behind the mobile for the next at Mildura. We wanted to get this initial Stage 1 of TV up and going and the guys have done a great job in a very short period of time. It will take more time and work to develop Stage 2 which we aim to build in some content between races that Trots lovers will really appreciate. I'm personally enjoying the post race discussion from the race callers after horses have crossed the finish line. It means we are talking about the Trots participants and horses to anyone with an internet connection, in a way that we haven't been able to for years. We'd be happy to hear your suggestions for Stage 2.


Cheers, David

[Messenger]

Well done David, I was wondering whether starting the broadcast from when the horses first come on the track for their warm up would be relatively inexpensive to produce and yet of great interest to trots fans

[Messenger]

I just had it on at the same time as Fox Sky1 for Hamilton R1 and noticed that Trots Vision was about 10 secs behind

[Messenger]

Although it is not full HD you can choose the Setting 720 which is a better pic than you can get on Sky

[Messenger]

I have found another great feature of these early days of Trots Vision. You can have Trots Vision playing and be doing something else and when they cross the sound comes on and you know a race is about to be run. It is especially appealing to those of us who hate the barrage called Sky1

[Messenger]

As much as I like to have the Setting at 720p for the best possible pic, I find that sometimes on this setting the pic freezes or buffers too much. Anybody else find this?

[Messenger]

Worse than freezing this time! Sky1 I love you again :o

[Messenger]

Breaking up again tonight (Kilmore). I have given up on 720p resolution but even on 540p (and not going to Full screen on the computer) I cannot be sure of getting through the race :(:(:(

Please don't make me go back to Sky 1

[Messenger]

Any tech experts or better still HRV people out there who can explain whether Trots Vision is meant for anything more than small ph or tablet screens

Just experimented during the interviews after R3. I only have the resolution on 540p but every time (did it 5 times) I chose Full screen for my computer the pic froze forcing me to exit full screen, refresh the page and select play again.

[Messenger]

Please HRV do not commit too much to program production etc until you get the streaming right. I am finding it pretty useless of late - freezing all the time when setting is on Auto (540p) and on small screen (not full screen)

[Messenger]

It is not a problem if I connect to my mobile broadband which seems to have a faster speed than my ADSL2 but I still cannot excuse it as I watch things on SBS on demand on full HD on full screen without a problem

[Dot]

All this technical talk is over my head. I'd just be happy to be able to watch the replays on my phone without them freezing every few seconds at sometime other then between midnight and 2am. Of course the problem could be at my end.

[Messenger]

Trots Vision has been fine this week including so far tonight
If anybody 'tweeked' anything - thank you
I have done nothing different at my end but have been able to enjoy the highest setting 720p on full screen (computer) w/o any freezing
I have also noticed I can change the setting (resolution) or screen size without it freezing like it was last week

[Messenger]

The dual video stream to do the for some extra commentary and barrier draws was not as reliable and Cody seemed to be the only one with a decent mic. Having commentary on the barrier draw instead of hearing Jason Bonnington's voice even though he was the MC and the on camera pic - was offputting but maybe I just found it that way because I am used to reading lips

[Messenger]

Enjoying Trots Vision for the Trotters Vicbred finals tonight BUT WHY DO THEY KEEP ON CHOPPING OFF THE WINNING OWNERS INTERVIEWS just to go to the countdown to the next race screen

[Dot]

Haven't had any joy getting Trotsvision to work but I'm enjoying the live blog.

Told a lie, got to watch the last on Trotsvision, very nice.

[Messenger]

Has anybody else noticed that in post race interviews, nobody can ask longer questions (takes longer) than Rob Auber

ps But he is a wealth of knowledge and does a good job

[Messenger]

It is great to see some pre-race vision of the horses (The more the better instead of the countdown clock).
Poster Boy looked beautiful pre-race - is that how he got his name Anne?

[Amlin]

The vision is automatically set to begin two minutes before an event and finish 10 minutes after an event at this stage. Up to those trackside to get the formalities done and dusted in that timeframe after a race I guess

[Messenger]

And last minute punters need to be careful as the races are on about a 10 second delay

[Dot]

Clearly some small things to iron out. Robs commentary is broadcast on course as well, and till now time constraints haven't been an issue. In time as on course commentators, and those they are interviewing become more familar with the time limit ( if it remains) they may all become more slick in their delivery. Switching to the blog Kev allows you to read the owners comments if they've been cut off.

[Bonnie]

It is great to see some pre-race vision of the horses (The more the better instead of the countdown clock).
Poster Boy looked beautiful pre-race - is that how he got his name Anne?

There is a story behind the name. A friend entered Chevy's ( Poster Boys ) foal photos in the Vic Breeders competition but they were ineligible because the format was not compatible . The winning photo graces the front cover of the Stallion Guide and if Chevy was voted the winner his photo could not be used.
We walked into the Legends Cafe at Melton one night and Harness Breeders Victoria had set up a promotion and Chevy's photos were used on the advertising billboards. The friend remarked that he was a ' Poster Boy ' and the name was registered.
He is a quality individual with presence and character and I am glad that you picked that up on Trots Vision. He is a good looker. Trots vision is a great initiative of HRV , it promotes the personal side of the sport and not just the betting. I am in it because of my love of the horse and seeing more of the horses , trainers ,drivers etc may encourage participation and re- kindle interest . It's early days yet but Trots Vision could be expanded in time.

[gutwagon]

It would be good if "Trots Vision" could be added to the TAB app for mobile phones. I know I am usually placing a bet just before the race jumps and just watch it on Sky via the app, after a few seconds of a quarter screen of the score up I always wish I had watched via Trots Vision.

[Messenger]

Trots Vision is great but lets not neglect the replays on the results
5hrs after the first at Mildura and I am still waiting for the replay to go up

[Messenger]

Somebody must be asleep at the wheel as I can watch the replay of R2 at Bendigo which was run an hour ago while I cannot watch R1 at Mildura which was run 7hrs ago

[Messenger]

http://www.harness.org.au/media-room/news-article/?news_id=38043

Why couldn't this just fill the gaps between races on Trots Vision?

[Adaptor]

That's a good idea Kev. Wonder how readable it would be on screen.

[Messenger]

Brilliant work by Rob Auber interviewing the Alford family after Sleepee's win in the 2yo Trotting Fillies

[Messenger]

How fantastic it is to have Trots Vision on nights like this - where we can enjoy lead in commentary and post race interviews and no worries about being shafted (Sky channel)

[Amlin]

The service is being expanded to five minutes before and (I think) 15 minutes after each race

[Messenger]

Watching Swan Hill Cup night and although the video starts 5 mins before the race the audio does not start until they are scoring up - even for the cup. As much as I enjoy the video - no audio seems a bit of a waste

[Messenger]

Where is the sound for the pre-race interviews tonight?

They obviously have a problem with Jason Bonnington's mic or are his interviews exclusively for Sky - can't be IF you leave the pics for the 2nd pony trot mid race for pics of his interview ( But we had the sound for the pony trot - the reverse might work)

[gutwagon]

Those driver interviews are a waste of time imo, they can't disclose their tactics or be completely honest so why bother. But yes it is annoying .

[Messenger]

No sound just pictures of INTERVIEWS is a complete FU

[Messenger]

I wish they had shown us all of that 3rd pony trot (instead of another interview with no sound) as those NSW ponies must have really been something

[Dot]

Sound cut off pre race with the interviews all series, very annoying, made me think the problem was my end when it goes most of the way through score up with no sound.

[Messenger]

I think we are supposed to be hearing it - unless Rob saying "some interviews with Jason Bonnington" was only being directed to on course patrons. NAH you don't show vision but no sound of interviews - it is unfortunately a monumental FU

What is the point of all the fancy camera work if we have no sound

[Messenger]

We are fools - it is called Trots Vision NOT Trots Sound and Vision

For the Consolation just now we didn't even hear Dan until the exact second they jumped

Dan and Rob are doing a great job - just disappointing the production team are letting them down

[Dot]

Anyone else not getting sound during the race on trotsvision tonight?

[Adaptor]

Anyone else not getting sound during the race on trotsvision tonight?

No sound on Trotsvision on my iPhone Race 5 Melton, Dot.

[Dot]

Oh good, well not really good, but glad the problems not my end! Thanks Noel

[Dot]

Do we REALLY need the interim dividends of the previous race on the screen whilst they are warming up or promotional material is being played? No idea what it looks like on a big screen but it takes up around 20% of the screen when viewing on a mobile phone.

[Messenger]

Is there any chance of TrotsVision ever becoming a 12hrs a day 'station'
I have been doing a bit of indoor painting and for a distraction I have had the Racing TV channels on
The gallops follower has got it made - there are TWO 24hr stations of nothing but gallops with program after program (I is Pay only, I know)
It is pretty hot competition

[Messenger]

It would not take much to make TrotsVision something worth promoting to the general public (some advertising to let them know it exists)
I much prefer it to the hodge-podge that is Sky
It needs a screen message stating when telecast will begin and once it does we cannot have a dead screen between races - so if there are no interviews etc we should keep replaying the previous race (with a countdown clock stating when the next begins) until the horses are out doing their prelims

[Messenger]

Trots Vision is the real deal tomorrow night with interviews, analysis and the all important barrier draws

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/articles/trots-vision-huge-saturday-night-ahead/

[Messenger]

Was it me or them?
I only got a blue Trots Vision screen for the first
(Luckily I had Sky at the ready)

I'm not at home so there's a good chance it was a reception problem

[Messenger]

Why don't we hear from Dan Mielicki until the mobile is well and truly moving
I appreciate looking at the footage of the horses doing the preliminaries that they provide and I don't really need any commentary for that, it is just a strange production not having any audio - sometimes until they are only metres from dispatch
As Professor Julius Sumner Miller would say: "Why Is It So?" (an old favourite of my dads)

[Messenger]

Still would love to know why we have no sound until they jump
The production audio (other than the call) or should I say frequent lack of it for interviews, should really be getting better

(Not Visions fault I know but it is nearly R8 and there are still no replays up)

[Messenger]

It is fantastic having non-stop program on Vision for Breeders final night
One personal improvement I would love. If the sound was in sync with their lips. I actually do not need to read lips with the hearing device I use now but old habits die hard and I cannot watch the panel without my brain attempting to do it and when they are out of sync (ever so slightly) it just makes for confusion. My solution at present is to not look at the interviews just listen

[Messenger]

I am loving this coverage - it is like being back in the Ch31 days
Adam Hamilton is a fantastic host

[Mytwobobsworth]

Agree the coverage is good.
Personally I don’t really like either of the blokes hosting but they are both very knowledgeable, particularly Bonnington, think he reads races/form as good as anyone. Not the New Zealand interest of previous years but I also would like to see Mick Guerin involved.
Just worry that TrotsVision is preaching to the converted. Anyone who even knows it exists is already involved in the industry.
And going by the crowd of 17 people on track we need some new faces.

[Messenger]

It is certainly for the converted but we have been so neglected for so long. If you follow the gallopers you have programs 24/7 to satisfy your interest
Brittany has impressed me on track and I love that she does not call everyone 'mate'

ps I noticed that Rob Auber was still doing interviews after Brittany
You would think that our networking should be such that we wouldn't need that duplication
I see Rob's were extended interviews for the live blog but I am sure the duo doing Trots vision would have appreciated extended interviews to leave less to them

[gutwagon]

Even on course the on track interviews were out of sync with the big screen so it's not just trots vision. I'm still not a fan of the on track interviews because the drivers are restricted in what they can say. would rather see a close up of the horse and hear the trainer being interviewed. It seems more for show that they like to talk to the driver who tells you nothing that wasn't already known.
I was surprised by the large crowd there last night, again the poor weather highlighted the poor viewing facilities, great prize money, great horses and racing let down by poor facilities. Like many owners/breeders I just arrive a few races before the one I want to see and leave not long after.

Very happy with my girls effort (4th after the protest) and she has a bright future. Finally got some luck in running and with the protest bumping her up one position. Not bad for a small time breeder with a limited budget.

[Messenger]

Mediatec seem to be getting a bit casual
We didn't get any Humbletonian replays for more than 24hrs
then for R1 at Stawell today we did not any Telecast on Trots Vision until they were 500m from home

[Messenger]

I hope Trots Vision is still seen as an alternative to Sky
I don't really watch it that much but glitches seem to be creeping in
Eg once again tonight when I am tuned in to watch R3 at Bendigo tonight, they have the banner up for R1 and the names of couple of horses in R1 at the bottom of the screen (not the first time I have seen this happen)

[Messenger]

I must say I use Trots Vision in preference to Sky nowadays as I do not want all the waffle from the other codes

HRV’s live digital streaming service Trots Vision will broadcast The Parade Ring sponsored by the VHRC – Victorian harness racing’s preeminent club for trots owners – at every Tabcorp Park Melton Saturday night meeting.

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/articles/hrv-vhrc-sign-new-media-partnership/

The addition of parade ring footage will be a positive - mind you I am assuming it is actually vision of the parade ring (and not the name of a program)
Hopefully they keep the vision running and show the runners warming up

[Messenger]

I tuned in too late for R1 Parade Ring but caught some warming up and a trainer interview. I am now watching the R2 Parade Ring. The close up camera is very good BUT they have to do something about the long shot camera - it is so out of focus They got it in focus for R3 But a few audio problems creeping into the interviews. I should add that there is a slight chance the longshot for R2 was an internet problem (have Quality setting on Auto) but I don't think so as the close ups would have been affected too
Obviously this extra vision is giving a big role to Rob Auber, which he can handle and caller Dan Mielecki is being asked to do a lot. Excellent form discussion and compared to other vision alternatives this is MUST viewing for punters (and enthusiasts)

[Messenger]

Interviews have been fantastic. If we have these interviews plus maybe a little bit of offbeat stuff/humour or off the track stuff thrown in with the previews and racing - we have a program to take to the public, which should produce converts

[Messenger]

Tuned in to see the first at Cranbourne. No audio
Hiccups like this happen far too often for a supposedly professional service
IDEA Don't leave it to the last second to turn audio on (a normal but unsatisfactory practice that they employ) and have someone following the Vision coverage on course - so that they can alert the van/box when things are amiss

[Messenger]

Trots Vision aren't the only ones who need to allocate clear roles
Hello HRV, R2 has been run at Terang but R1 results are not up yet

[Messenger]

Trots Vision on Saturday night at Melton is the only way to watch the trots
Rob Auber and Dan Mielicki do a fantastic job

[Messenger]

One improvement I would like to see with Trots Vision is
pre Race could we have the Field listed down one side of the screen or along the bottom (especially for our Metro meet)
It would let one keep their attention on the one screen

[Messenger]

Missing Rob Auber and Dan Mielicki's smooth delivery for the previews at Ballarat tonight (Dan still calling +) compared to Dave and Paul (?) who are all over the place

[Messenger]

To be fair, the interviews have been good, it is just the previews could come down a notch ie relax and slow it down, be orderly - we want something that we can listen to continuously, something like the pace of racing.com compared to Sky1

[Messenger]

TrotsVision should be able to give us some audio before the horses are released - a minute or two at least

[gutwagon]

Watched most of lasts nights Ballarat meeting and must say it was great. Plenty of information, parade ring and warm ups were all shown. Winning driver interviews. Hardly any downtime and they tipped a few winners that were not fav. Well done to all involved.
Looking forward to next week.

[Messenger]

You will have to tune into a Rob Auber and Dan Mielicki meet sometime Rick - even better presenters

[gutwagon]

Yes Kevin I have seen them, the biggest improvement is the lack of down time. I know it's only Saturday nights that have the extra commentary but hopefully it extends to other days in future.

[Messenger]

Rob has been doing it on Friday - even the day meeting of last Friday

[Messenger]

Thanks again to Rob and Dan for another entertaining afternoon
Beautifully paced and relaxing to watch
The analysis and interviews are spot on
Interviews under the verandah in future might need a bit of lighting on the subjects (we want to look professional)
I don't want to spoil this review but I cannot say that I completely enjoy the interviews with past cheats but what can you do when they are back and winning.
Maybe, for the year following their return, they could start the interview with a brief apology for letting down the industry and the public
:rolleyes: Unforgiving Kev

[Messenger]

I have enjoyed the coverage of Shep tonight too - pretty smooth
A few pre race interviews would put it up there with Melton

[Messenger]

Excellent again last night at Melton
Tonight at Bendigo good but one thing
Alternatives for "Looks a Treat"
- is in fine order
- is in excellent condition
- beautifully presented
- looks great, fantastic, superb,
........
;)

[Messenger]

TrotsVision is starting to put the complete package together for Metro meets
I notice the injection of some pre-recorded tips by Jason Bonnington tonight
To have non-stop something to watch or listen to is not far away (vision only is ok for some spots)
The country Saturday nights probably only need a pre-race interview and they have the full content

[Messenger]

Enjoying the Melton coverage again today
A little bit disappointing that they can't quite get their technology right
Rob's microphone is clear except for some of the interviews, the interviewee is clear but Rob all of sudden sounds like he is in a tunnel - it almost sounds like we are hearing him via the interviewee's microphone not his own. As soon as the interview is over he is clear again so I suspect it is how Rob holds the mic or positions himself

[Messenger]

I cannot believe I forgot about the early start
Does anybody else find Rob's audio when doing interviews annoying?

[Messenger]

I can't believe that Trots Vision has so much trouble getting their audio right
Gareth and Adam in the studio 'echoed' for R1 (and we could hear their mumbling during Dan's call) then they sounded better for R2 BUT we had NO CALL from Dan
Positive - we have got Rob's audio for interviews spot on

[Messenger]

Adam knows they have no race audio in the studio BUT does anybody know that that is 2 races with no race audio for the public!

[Messenger]

Well after having Adam and Gareth giving a running commentary in place of a call for R4, we finally got it right for R5
Partnering up with Sky has proved a debacle but at least it has been a dress rehearsal for next week

[Messenger]

Holy Cow, now the lights have gone out on track

[Messenger]

Gareth has said Ride High has focused eyes on harness racing BUT unfortunately

[Yabbie]

I started on Trots Vision and when there were issues, switched to SkyActive. The issues were the same on both. Don't know whose responsibility it was, but is was extremely poor from a viewer's perspective. Surely they have technicians who monitor the feed - it was disgraceful listening to Adam and Gareth's comments during the race and their discussions with their tech guys. And worst of all was listening to them rustling their papers while eating!
They were great at tweeting all night but obviously did not read the responses to their tweets which gave direct feedback on the poor quality of the broadcast. Either give us back the straight Trots Vision next week or get your act together guys!

[Messenger]

In frustration (and while trying to cook a BBQ) I emailed Cody. Who told me they aware of the problem but we had another race of fumbling and mumbling after that before they at least did a running commentary for R4

[Messenger]

Last night was a job very well done by everyone. They got the balance right by making more use of Rob and Dan 👍

[Messenger]

One reservation - can we get rid of the 'fancy' super close up (so close it is out of focus) approaching the Bell. It does nothing and we missed seeing why Catch A Moment in R3 needed to go 4w

[gutwagon]

One reservation - can we get rid of the 'fancy' super close up (so close it is out of focus) approaching the Bell. It does nothing and we missed seeing why Catch A Moment in R3 needed to go 4w
Yes, I hate it when they use those close ups of the leaders on big race nights ! Can't see where the horse you have backed is or what moves are coming !

[Messenger]

Excellent coverage again tonight
Only qualification would be the barrier draws.
I'll say it again - HRV get some large balls and have a display board for JB to man instead of talking so much

[Messenger]

They continue to improve the product
An excellent move to replay the races after the winning interview
This stream is so much better than Sky for out and out harness fans

[Messenger]

Lucky we have Trots Vision as Sky2 deserted us for the last 3 semis

[gutwagon]

Trots Vision showed the sky2 coverage and in my opinion it was not as good as the normal coverage.

[Messenger]

Yes, it was the same but there was no Sky2 coverage for the last 3 semis so TV was appreciated by this fan

[Messenger]

We have tried something new in the back straight for the first lap
PLEASE PLEASE STOP IT NOW - it looks like rubbish compared to normal vision

[Messenger]

Hopefully never again will we have so many changes of camera angle - making it hard to follow what was happening. Keep it simple - whatever gives us the best view of what is happening

[Messenger]

Tonight I played around with the Chromecast (not really knowing what I was doing) and found that I could 'cast' Vision from my computer to the TV with my Google TV turned on (my source of Netflix) because my TV is not a smart TV. I was only able to cast from my computer (not my phone or tablet) because having Vision up on my computer at the end of the address you have those 3dots to click on which let you control google chrome and one of the options is Cast. Anyway it looked very good on the big screen

[gutwagon]

Wouldn't it be good if they could get it put on the subscription services (Netflix, Binge,Stan), that would make life easy. If you just want to see the race it is a bit of a pain to switch from normal tv to Trots Vision.

[aussiebreno]

Wouldn't it be good if they could get it put on the subscription services (Netflix, Binge,Stan), that would make life easy. If you just want to see the race it is a bit of a pain to switch from normal tv to Trots Vision.

http://www.harnessracingforum.com/showthread.php?7419-Should-HRV-Pay-to-get-Harness-on-Free-to-air-TV-like-Netball-has-done

Over 5 years ago I sent that email to HRNSW! Post 2 in the thread.

[Messenger]

http://www.harnessracingforum.com/showthread.php?7419-Should-HRV-Pay-to-get-Harness-on-Free-to-air-TV-like-Netball-has-done

Over 5 years ago I sent that email to HRNSW! Post 2 in the thread.

Great foresight Breno - if you had followed your instincts and bought Netflix shares at the time you would have made over 400% on whatever you invested :D

[aussiebreno]

Great foresight Breno - if you had followed your instincts and bought Netflix shares at the time you would have made over 400% on whatever you invested :D

Makes me sick!! No I didnt :(

[Messenger]

Failed similarly a couple of years ago. I put in an order for Afterpay shares at a fixed price before going out for the day, they never came down to my price (only 2c difference) so there was no purchase and when they jumped the next day I decided I would wait for them to come down - they didn't . I calculated the other day that not simply putting in my order for market price (a measly 2c more) cost me $600,000 on today's APT price
(mind you, thank to Covid, they dropped to $8 and are now $114 - and I still missed the boat)

[aussiebreno]

Failed similarly a couple of years ago. I put in an order for Afterpay shares at a fixed price before going out for the day, they never came down to my price (only 2c difference) so there was no purchase and when they jumped the next day I decided I would wait for them to come down - they didn't . I calculated the other day that not simply putting in my order for market price (a measly 2c more) cost me $600,000 on today's APT price
(mind you, thank to Covid, they dropped to $8 and are now $114 - and I still missed the boat)

:(:(:(

[Messenger]

No Trots Vision of Horsham today?????
Everybody is there and you can watch it on Sky/TAB
And yet the Trots Vision webpage has a 1700+ min countdown until R1 at Melton
STRANGE!

[Messenger]

Fixed for R2 but no explanation or apology for what happened for R1

[Messenger]

I was surprised to see it was only Cody and Nikita with Lachie for APG finals night
They did an excellent job and there was no reason why I should have been surprised I guess

[Messenger]

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/articles/trainers-drivers-to-provide-expert-insights-on-trots-vision/

This should be good although I like the pace of just Rob and Dan and the fact that the program allowed Rob to do some fantastic interviews last Friday
I am a fan of Milesy so we will see how it goes
Oops it is a day meet so I will miss it - someone let me know how it works

[Messenger]

They're supposedly going all out on TrotsVision tonight but I can't say I am sold so far

They have added Ben Krahe for market moves and tips but it has cut into Dan Mielicki's time (why pay someone else)
And JB feels the need to engage in too much matey banter with guests like Ben
It is not funny how we get so many sports presenters nowadays (footy players are classic egs) who think they are comedians, we old zealots might blame it on Jack Dyer and Lou Richards having everybody think they can be funny
If you want a comedian you hire a Mick Molloy ...

We have to get JB to share the mic better as he does not want to be like the footy commentators that you get so sick of that you watch without sound
Rob Auber can sometimes be a bit wordy with his questions but overall is a total contrast to JB

Sofia Arvidsson did a good job on having the first movie quote thrust upon her

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Greg Sugars did a very good job (despite wanting to laugh) at his movie quote but you cannot help but think "what the hell are we doing" Probably not helped by the fact that neither JB or Nikita mentioned the sponsor or the quiz and what contestants need to do

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The later crosses to Ben were interesting as he was given time to explain how pros punt
Maybe we should keep Ben and give Dan the job of looking at each runner instead of, or with, Jason and Nikita - Dan is otherwise being somewhat wasted
It may just be me that thinks JB could share it around a bit (my mother would never watch Bert Newton lol)

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I wonder whether TrotsVision will be covering both Kilmore and Mildura on Friday night
It will be a real smorgasbord if they are - 22 races in a bit over 5hrs

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Trots enthusiasts have got it SO GOOD with TrotsVision
Take Bendigo tonight, nothing but the one meeting covered in intricate detail
The gallops don't even get it this good - the closest would be when Ch7 cover a feature meet but they have ads
If people want to immerse themselves in a sport it doesn't get much better than this

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Bendigo tonight
The lead up to R1 - it is interesting to hear JB saying we won't have time to go through all the runners as we have to create a dynamic broadcast.
They seem to manage it at the gallops

ps Then they spent heaps of time going through all the runners anyway so it meant nothing other than to hint at their intentions

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This certainly must have been a throw away line by JB as in the lead up to the Gp3 trot they spent forever talking about the 150/1 pops

[Messenger]

They really need to get Jason Bonnington some media training, he is forever inappropriately commenting on people's clothing and appearances

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They really need to get Jason Bonnington some media training, he is forever inappropriately commenting on people's clothing and appearances
I can't stand the bloke. He calls everyone by a nickname and barely lets the co host talk. I really like watching the show but can't watch when he is on. I would be happy to see J Bon P off !

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We are no doubt the wrong demographic but he could do with some training LOL I have seen him referred to elsewhere as the Walking Ego - there certainly is a lot of I in what he talks about (mostly his bets last night)

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JB is good at manifesting excitement but when it is pitched at that level too long you do need to take a break from him. With the producers not doing it for us, I found myself switching off and on a bit tonight - Menangle having some big races was a real blessing
I can see what Trevor means about the nicknames - tonight they were constant, constant, constant (although I think he may have called Chris Alford - Christopher for a change)

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It was great to have pretty much continuous coverage from Maryborough today for the trotters breeders crown heats but to be professional we really needed another camera. A huge percentage of the telecast was really audiocast as we never saw Paul Campbell or anyone that he interviewed. A fixed camera on a microphone position for interviewees would have made us go from Ch31 standard to commercial channel standard, if for some reason this is not as simple as it sounds well then a fixed camera on the parade ring/stables area would have been better than an empty home straight or the semaphore board

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We have no sound on TrotsVision other than Dan's call for R1
They are continuing on as if they didn't know

They have done 100's of meetings from Melton - it should be clockwork by now!

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We only heard a goodbye "Cheers" from Glenn Douglas's interview - probably enough
We have not been able to hear as to whether there is a reason that we have only male hosts tonight

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I am not sure why we need 3 on the desk when we are using Dan a lot and have Gareth on track
(although it is certainly stopping Jason from dominating)

[Yabbie]

We have no sound on TrotsVision other than Dan's call for R1
They are continuing on as if they didn't know

They have done 100's of meetings from Melton - it should be clockwork by now!

They were aware of it and just kept going as there was no way to know when the sound would kick back in - it was a Sky Channel problem.

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I have been told "HRV and Mediatec send replays to Sky Racing / TAB from meetings", so I am pretty certain Sky don't produce our TrotsVision content so I cannot see how we can blame them for no audio. I reckon we could do with an old fashioned "Testing, testing, testing 1,2,3 " maybe a half hour before the meet just in case we have a rogue Sky worker pulling out one of our plugs. We did see a worker go into the Broadcast box after Dan had called R1

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Why do TrotsVision leave it until the last second to roll
eg Horsham R1 today - we missed the very start.(by no means a rarity)
Unprofessional

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I am guessing this is a Bendigo initiative (or Elmore?), TrotsVision have a continuous program with Paul Campbell MCing (instead of just race telecasts)
and good camera work for interviews and parade ring

That this was happening tonight should have been promoted on the HRV homepage!

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Why do TrotsVision leave it until the last second to roll
eg Horsham R1 today - we missed the very start.(by no means a rarity)
Unprofessional

We missed the start of R1 at Bendigo tonight too
TOTALLY UNPROFESSIONAL

[Messenger]

Jason, Kirsten, Steve, Gareth and Dan was a really well balanced production last night - congratulations to all

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Very good to see an ad for TrotsVision on the racing.com telecast

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No audio for the last at Kilmore (switched to TAB and they had it)
While on the point of audio - why is it that it is almost the norm to not have any audio until the mobile is well and truly rolling

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No audio for the first at Cranbourne (Sky/TAB had it)
Really becoming amateur hour of late

[Showgrounds]

Bozo in the red cap needs another job, like in the hot dog van. Too matey and could not attract new followers to the game.

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I didn't watch the full coverage tonight - just tuned in for the races
Surprised to hear that about Milesy as over the last year he has been involved with some super informative stuff eg how he selects and measures yearlings, how he works rising 2yo's

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I didn't watch the full coverage tonight - just tuned in for the races
Surprised to hear that about Milesy as over the last year he has been involved with some super informative stuff eg how he selects and measures yearlings, how he works rising 2yo's

I didn't know who he was as I rarely watch Trots Vision and only watched before and after the Cup tonight. He knows the industry for sure but too rough around the edges for my liking. I don't know who the young lady was but she came over professionally.

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The young lady is Nikkita Ross, who is on the panel most of the time. You're right about her being very good

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Semis night and Jason Bonnington's mic is not working, compared to Nikkita, Rob and everyone else - he is all echo
Most annoying that we struggle to get audio spot on

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Much improved after R4 but I suspect a contributing factor is that with JB seated in the middle but with his mic on his right lapel, his audio deteriorates when he turns to the left to talk to Rob

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Trouble with the audio again on our big night, I thought I heard Dan say pre R1 that he was getting a bit annoyed with it (I hear but also read lips so without any video of Dan, I may have misheard) - and then the interview with R1 winning driver Greg Sugars continued as if we could hear him (don't the studio panel know we can't - it should have been aborted)

They must get a new Audio person and have someone responsible for testing that everything is working pre R1

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Another interview audio failure - please stop embarrassing yourselves and do a test before crossing
and maybe it is just Jason Bonnington's voice but his audio is very ordinary compared to the Nikita and Rob (I still think it is middle positon/mic problem)

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Yep, Dan is definitely pissed off with the audio problems at his end

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Oh no they have gone to the winning driver again after R4 and once again NO AUDIO
Stop continuing with the interview as if we can hear the driver, I don't care if you are recording it and we will be able to catch a replay somewhere - we are your audience and it is plain offensive that you treat us with so little respect

[Messenger]

Out watering for post R5 but have just heard R6 driver interview WITH audio!

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Jason Bonnington seems to have been given the MC role on the panel at Bendigo tonight - a mistake as he talks too much and dominates
I was looking forward to tonight but I won't be able to take 4½hrs of him

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He is truly inappropriate as the MC as his winning driver interview proved ('smart arse' even in humour cannot be said), he needs a strong panel leader or producer to keep him under control (smaller doses)
Maybe HRV/TrotsVision is seeing him as the Robbo type (AFL 360) but Robbo is not constantly full on and has Gerard to keep him under control

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Nikkita, Steve and Kirsten were excellent listening last night. Nikkita makes an excellent numero uno as she shares it around so very very well

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Ballarat Cup draw special - no audio for the first couple of minutes.
TrotsVision has undoubtedly the worst paid audio technicians anywhere in the world

[Messenger]

Nikkita, Gareth or Rob and a guest (plus Dan of course) - TrotsVision/HRV should lock them in for every metro meet

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It would be remiss of me (after all my recent criticism of Visions audio) if I did not mention that the audio for all 3 on the panel tonight at Melton is clear and of equal volume no matter which way they turn their head. Yay :D

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Following on from our pathetic treatment by Sky and the recent Hunter Cup coverage on Racing.com
I wonder whether we couldn't strike a deal with Ch7
I doubt they rate their 7Two and 7Mate channels as valuable an asset as what we might (as streaming has eroded the number of free to air viewers)
We could however experiment with whether we could get a following on one of these channels. The benefit to them is free content (we have the production means through TrotsVision)
The obvious would be their Racing.com but that is the gallops baby and make no mistake, many in the gallops world are still our enemies, so let's steer clear of them
We could commandeer Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday nights for Trots night on 7Mate
We cannot see NSW as the enemy so we could invite them to be part of it (or any other state except WA - time difference) to keep up the content.

Let's say you could conduct a 3 month trial and see if it has positive results

In the long run I am not sure that free to air is important as people tend to stream everything nowadays (especially under 40yo's) but it could be a worthwhile experiment

Some would say that we have to be where the punters are = TAB/Sky
I see it as running hand in hand with TrotsVision and TAB/Sky
I do however think that if the big/pro punters see us as their source of income they would punt on us regardless of our viewing platform
I know for a fact that some of the gallops form analysts/punters punt wherever they can be successful - things such as European Womens Volleyball etc, things that you are not going to see on Sky

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Sounds like a good idea Kevin, the only issue I see is that Sky own the rights to the race vision and may not wish to lose viewers to free to air.

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I am already wondering if a change of heart about going to Terang tonight might have been a mistake
TrotsVision breaking up badly - I think it is them as they put up the TrotsVision logo at one stage and I have good internet

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Nikkita good as always and Josh Dickie has a future in the media if he ever wants to retire as a participant

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Thank God for the advances in technology.
What with Vincent having his first Victorian winner last night, I thought I would revisit his performances. Sadly it is not until 2018 that our replays are of good enough quality to enjoy. You view Vincent's one failure/mishap in the 2017 Vic Derby and compare it to the 2018 replay - the improvement is incredible

We have got it so good nowadays. I remember when having Bell Lap and Finish photo form for Moonee Valley was considered fantastic

[Showgrounds]

Perhaps the resolution of the videos have been minimised for storage purposes. Trouble is viewers can't optimise the resolution to watch replays, therefore the quality is the equivalent of an old Super 8 home movie. Another example as to why the HRA website desperately needs to be upgraded.

I note 4 of Vincent's 5 Australian starters have been fillies while last night's winner is a gelding. There is a very well bred Vincent filly debuting in race 3 at Addington NZ this afternoon named Tara Victory. Her dam is a SBSW half sister to Tiger Tara. Half the field is scratched so only three runners and her good trial form could give young Vin another winner. And I just watched his Vic Derby heat win again to remind me how so good he was!

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Why is it that the audio can play up for TrotsVision but never Sky/TAB
Once again no audio for R2 at Stawell on Vision but it was fine on the TAB

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With today's Mildura meet and tonight's Bendigo meet having a few races overlap, someone thought it would be a good idea to have a split screen on TrotsVision
It wasn't really as we can live without the preliminaries at Bendigo while a race is being run at Mildura
BUT what made it especially annoying was having the sound up for both - how could they NOT foresee/insure this was not a problem

They then compounded the ridiculousness of the split screen by having them both show the next Bendigo race but they were not in sync so once again Garbage audio

It is always the audio, I don't think the techs must have the sound up half the time or else they would not get it wrong so often

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With the two meets tonight I worked out the sound overlap with the split screen
If you hover over the bottom of either screen you will see that you can mute one

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A problem with the split screen for when we have two meetings being run like Geelong and Mildura last night
Between races at Mildura they have up the previous race's result/semaphore board under the banner for the next race
If you didn't notice on the following snip for example that the banner says (R)10 and at the end 16min (circled in red), you are going to think the semaphore board on display is for R10

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Why is it always the sound that is a problem on TrotsVision?
No sound for R1 at Stawell
TAB feed is however fine :mad:

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Is anyone else's TrotsVision playing up tonight :confused:
the track vision only - it looks like we are only getting every second frame (jumping) and the horses look like they are going in slo-mo
The sound is spot on and the time to the race countdown clock is ticking off the seconds perfectly so it is very confusing

Checked my internet speed and it is the highest it has ever been (nudging 200!)

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They have just gone to a break and left us with a black screen so I think there must be a problem

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Fixed :D

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https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/articles/continued-growth-in-key-audience-segments-for-trotsvision-website/

Singing their own praises but with no actual numbers, just percentages. I'm afraid it reads a little shifty
With JB able to keep it simple in his column this week then the marketing department can too - just give us the numbers. We will judge for ourselves, how well you are going.

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https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/articles/continued-growth-in-key-audience-segments-for-trotsvision-website/

Singing their own praises but with no actual numbers, just percentages. I'm afraid it reads a little shifty
With JB able to keep it simple in his column this week then the marketing department can too - just give us the numbers. We will judge for ourselves, how well you are going.
We need to see turnover and foal numbers increasing for it to be judged as successful . The Covid lockdowns would have increased its audience more than anything.

As I have said elsewhere I only tune in just before the race and then tune out just after the race. There is very little on there to keep me interested.

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No replays up at all for Maryborough today

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I know they will be up tomorrow and there will be some excuse that they did not have internet or who knows what
But it seems like BS when Sky/TAB have the replay
HRV will probably say it is RISE's fault because they are responsible for putting up the replays
While RISE will say it is HRV's fault because they do the uploading

Whoever's fault it is, there is no question that it is someone's fault and they need to explain (had something stronger but I have become PC) when they stuff up

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https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/articles/trotsvision-drives-into-colourful-new-era/

A new-look TrotsVision launches Saturday night at Tabcorp Park Melton

The article talks about new titles and more

A new broadcast set has been installed this week at the Melton studio, protests will now be beamed live on TrotsVision, coverage will feature more interviews, feature stories, engaging discussion and the best form analysis in the land.

Although Ryan Phelan has come onboard as a consultant there is no change to this Saturday's personnel
For professionalism we are really missing Nikita Ross.

The article also mentions :

HRV announced this morning that its three biggest feature meetings, Pryde’s EasiFeed Victoria Cup night (October 8), Inter Dominion Finals (December 10) and Del-Re National A.G. Hunter Cup (February 4), would feature on Sky Racing and free-to-air television Channel 78 (68 in regional areas) via Racing.com.

It is interesting to read

Citing research from Gemba produced this year, Mellor said harness racing stood to benefit significantly from further engaging fans in other racing codes through extended broadcasts.

“A significant number of thoroughbred racing and ‘non-racing’ fans engage with harness racing each month, meaning there is a substantial group of people engaging regularly with our sport that we can connect with further through extended broadcasts,” she said.


I wonder whether this research was released for it would be good to read

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Don't recall any complaints about the set . Glad it's been fixed!

[gutwagon]

I watched the entire coverage of Vic cup night on free to air ch 78, it was a huge improvement on trots vision and good viewing. Just need to have this every Saturday night and get rid of JB of course!

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Hi Rick, was that the same coverage that was on TrotsVision, I assumed it was OR did you get Sky's coverage which would have included Brittany Graham. I watched the TrotsVision replay to see what I missed (having gone) and thought it was very good. The only weakness, I feel is that Shannon was tacked on as their token female
There wasn't too much JB and he had a suitable role.
My dream improvement would be to have Brittany - maybe instead of Ryan, although she is very good at her roaming interviews. Did anybody watch the Sky coverage to tell us what that was like?

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Kevin, I didn't see the Sky coverage so can't comment on it. The Ch 78 version may have been shown on Trots vision but was a much better show than what is normally on there. If it were like this every week it would attract more viewers in my opinion.

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Did you have Gareth Hall doing the roving interviews or Brittany Graham (both were there doing more or less the same thing - both VG) - that will tell me whether Ch78 used Vision or Sky

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When a track/meeting has a MC doing interviews, why can't TrotsVision use/take those interviews instead of twiddling their thumbs waiting for their turn to make the driver repeat the interview

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Bendigo R7 Breeders Crown 3yo Fillies Ht 3 was put back a race, then as they entered the straight for the final time Trots Vision goes to its next race countdown clock - they really do find all manner of ways to stuff up (I wonder what happened on Sky?)

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It is our big Breeders Crown Gp1 night and we are seeing vid of the presentations but no audio, maybe we only want to cut into the owners speech But I do think we could hear a bit less of the panel and something from the winners

Good to see they are getting to use Brittany's on track interviews for Sky.

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Ryan Phelan has been an excellent addition to the desk.
Brittany Graham would be a superb regular but we would have zero chance of wooing her from Queensland (weather)
She is such a professional and has been for a couple of years now and yet I read she is only 27

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I am sorry to be negative but the TrotsVision need to tone down the praise of their colleagues
You don't hear other sports coverage spend so much time thanking and telling each other how good they have been
Just a little people, not over and over and over again pleeezzzzz

It feels like they are trying to brainwash us - as I have been typing this they have been doing more of it, in fact nothing but LOL

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It has been impressive how much Shannon O'Sullivan has grown in her role

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A good professional production by TrotsVision tonight

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Well done to Boort to get Paul Campbell and have wall to wall TrotsVision coverage today.
One disappointment - why couldn't the race camera pan to the presentations so that we could see as well as hear what was going on. They were able to show us the on track interviews so I am not sure why not the presentations (out of camera's sight?)

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At Bendigo the presenters are more or less silhouetted as they have the bright background behind them
Maybe it is too hot to have the lights on them BUT some forethought and greater professionalism would be appreciated

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Did anybody have the Cup video break up and crackle all the way through the race?
The reason I ask is that I have been watching TrotsVision all night without a glitch and then the big race starts and barely watchable
My internet speed seems VG

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Did anybody have the Cup video break up and crackle all the way through the race?
The reason I ask is that I have been watching TrotsVision all night without a glitch and then the big race starts and barely watchable
My internet speed seems VG

Well that confirms it - watching REWIND of the meet it does it again Only for the Cup
That was some stuff up for the focus of the night!

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It is no secret that I am a deaf coot and I am more likely to struggle to with female voices than men's but JB is regularly doing some sort of 'cool whisper/mumble' while I am not missing a word Nikita, Kima or Kate Gath are saying.
Work on your diction JB

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There needs to be a review who is directing the cameras during the running of the races

The shot of the Cups instead of the horses coming up the str the first time was 'beautifully Art House' idiots But they couldn't pull that off either as the camera was then out of focus for the horses and was still out of focus for the ridiculous close up going up the str the 2nd time. It is SO BAD - I did better in film 101 50yrs ago. Repeat after me - keep it simple!

The replays have been posted in reasonable time up until now but when you want them at their best for the Cup, we are back to over an hours wait

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Yes Kevin, the camerawork and directing for the cup was just embarrassing. Why change the view for a big race ? Just stick with what works. The only thing I would change is some drone footage of the score up and the first 20 meters of the race.

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If you want to watch the replays of Races 6 - 10 at Stawell today maybe use the TAB. The audio on TrotsVision is virtually non existent

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SW260123#SWC26012307

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Track/sulky interviews are a somewhat specialist position (physically) - Brittany of course and Shannon and JB do it well
but whenever others are asked to, I feel uncomfortable for them
If you're on the desk panel, that should be your role. It almost feels like being asked "would you mind fetching us coffee"

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The call was terrible for R1 - we had echo of the PA system, maybe Dan had his window open. I can never understand how it is that nobody in the van is listening or else they would fix these things within 400m

[aussiebreno]

Did the camera crew not know the distance of the Catch A Wave race? Home straight zoomed in.

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We got the audio right for the Mercury - Yay
But some idiot controlling the cameras decided we would like to see a super close up of Catch A Wave going to Fire Fox so close that we could not tell what was going on until the last 20m (when they desisted)
Pleeez stop this Nonsense!!!!!!!!!!!

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Did the camera crew not know the distance of the Catch A Wave race? Home straight zoomed in.

It is unbelievable the amateurs that are being paid to stuff things up Brendan

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OMG we nearly missed the Ouyen Cup, as it is we missed the start, because while we were watching the runners circling somebody thought it was a good idea to go to the '20 minutes until R1 Cranbourne' screen
Unbelievable

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Bugger, I missed R1 at Maryborough - or maybe I didn't as the Trots Vision screen is only showing

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No sound for R1 Melton tonight, vision just as they jumped
Sound has been a regular problem for TrotsVision
Maybe they should consider starting the telecast a little earlier and checking they are all systems go

[Yabbie]

No sound for R1 Melton tonight, vision just as they jumped
Sound has been a regular problem for TrotsVision
Maybe they should consider starting the telecast a little earlier and checking they are all systems go

It was an issue all over the course - new infrastructure not working properly. Very annoying ..............

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Lucky we have Sky for Elitloppet - as usual audio problems with TrotsVision - no call.
It would be interesting to retrace this thread and see how many times this has been the case (and I only watch TrotsVision a fraction of the time)
I wonder whether we have stuck with the same audio man or keep having to sack them

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Hallelujah we have sound (Go Luke)
Why do Monte riders look so uncomfortable compared to gallops jockeys?

Luke is doing a simply amazing job, calling horses that he doesn't regularly call and adjusting to the km sectional system

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I am a fan of Shannon O'Sullivan but I think as a presenter she could talk a little slower, at present she is so fast that for a deaf coot, like me, her words tend to run together. I think everybody would agree that she talks very fast

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It is so nice to have Ryan Phelan in charge tonight, along with Darren Carroll (and Dan of course) - their enunciation is perfect and so professional
I like Shannon but her enunciation could do with a bit of training - just slowing down may be all she needs to do
Ryan has no doubt had training, I wonder whether Jason ever has? He is all over our airwaves and yet I somehow doubt it
Not everybody needs it, Darren is an example tonight and Rob and Steve are good.
You would hope that they all have someone review them and mentor them

[Messenger]

Wakey Wakey Boys - you have forgotten to put up the replay for R3 at Shep tonight

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SP270623

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The old 'audio issues' again at Melton - maybe they should consider Closed Captions as a back-up :D

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I just tuned in for R3 the 2yo at Shep. The mobile is rolling and still no sound/caller, finally just seconds from release Rob Auber joins us and thinks he has time to do a quick summary of the runners (yes - we do want that But it should have happened a minute or two ago), consequently he is still doing this after the field has been released instead of calling what is happening and a bit is happening.
Why can't we expect the caller to come on a couple of minutes before the race?

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SP010823#SPC01082308

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WTF. Rob and Dan are talking about Catch A Wave and Captain Ravishing's work between races at Geelong last night in the lead up to The Eureka
It was an extensive conversation and they mention that something did not appear right with CaptR at the end of his 2100m and Greg Sugars did not push him out for the last 400m
They showed us all of CAW's 2100 and then all of CR's UNTIL we get to the topical 600m mark AND we cut to a parade ring interview = Stupidity or Censorship (was the Captain that bad?!)

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Is TrotsVision doing extended coverage of the $1m meeting at Bendigo tonight - maybe even on the Sky special (Thoroughbred Central) channel?
With all the promotion of Wednesday's 1200m meeting, unbelievable as it might seem - this meeting seems to have been neglected.

[Messenger]

Why can't we coordinate on track interviews with TrotsVision interviews - I cannot understand why one interviewer cannot do both (There is a saving ;))

[Messenger]

Ryan hosting TrotsVision tonight so I am guessing no budget cuts there (yet) although settling for less would be false economy as he brings another level of professionalism which we need to attract viewers (if we were to get TrotsVision onto a platform that the general public might see/use)

[Messenger]

Ryan hosting TrotsVision tonight so I am guessing no budget cuts there (yet) although settling for less would be false economy as he brings another level of professionalism which we need to attract viewers (if we were to get TrotsVision onto a platform that the general public might see/use)

But OMG the technicians are letting him down - a black screen and sometimes audio goes too

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Ryan would want to kill someone
Just as he says "these pictures we are seeing at the moment" - AND the picture goes!
Just as he says "fortunately we still have audio" - AND the audio goes!

It is comic stuff but it might be getting to him - he just said Menangle

He crosses to Dan and Dan is not there

They have the track (steward?) video and they are doing a radio show according to Ryan

[Messenger]

Brilliant fields at Shep tonight and although not expecting extended coverage, can't we at least have the caller come online before the last second. Take R2, it started 1½ mins after official start time but still the caller did not utter a peep until 1 min after official start time - we must not be paying them enough

[Messenger]

12 Group 1's tonight
Ryan Phelan an obvious for MC host and Brittany on track
Then Kirsten in the yard and No.2 on the desk with plenty of crosses to Dan in the Sky
I think they have got the balance right

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Aaron Dunn has his own business and probably doesn't need a buck
He drives and trains his own horses and no doubt loves it but if he let somebody else drive for him, I think he would win a lot more races

[Messenger]

What a win by Susan Is Her Name

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MX160923#MXM16092310

Be sure to have a look if you missed it

[Messenger]

Did anybody go? I am interested to know whether the Scotch Notch cafe was open for the public or was it used for a private function?

[Yabbie]

Did anybody go? I am interested to know whether the Scotch Notch cafe was open for the public or was it used for a private function?

Private function for owners of competing horses. By all accounts well received by those attending

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Glad I didn't end up going then as that is where I go

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I have watched R3 & R4 from Cranbourne but there has been no sound (and yet the Replay for R3 is up with sound)
Anybody else watching and found the same?

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No racecalls all day it would seem (fine on Sky)
I wonder what was amiss or weren't they aware of the problem
Does this tell us something about how many people are watching TrotsVision on Sunday (possibly no HRV people unless it was something beyond their control)

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I wonder whether we are supposed to have sound yet on TrotsVision
We have pics and it is only 5 minutes till R1 start time
Please Audio team - don't stuff up
I thought we had a problem and I think they HAD to cross to Brittany just now as Ryan just dropped out

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Yes, it was once again an audio problem as Brittany is only (supposed to be) on Sky

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Watching Gareth Hall doing the parade ring interviews - hard to believe it could pass OH&S guidelines :eek:

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I just don't get it !!!!!!!
Big day at Maryborough - Rob Auber is MC
Of course there are presentations and interviews on the stage
WHY WHY WHY are they not heard on TrotsVision
I say 'heard' because while the Vision hosts continue commentating we are 'seeing' footage of the presentations - GIVE US THE AUDIO

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Another TrotsVision stuff up for R1 at Cranbourne today
The coverage did not begin until there was only 400m to go

This is not unusual for TrotsVision - I have a mind boggling idea for the Technicians:
How about testing that everything is up and running at least 5 minutes before start time
Seriously, they just about never begin the telecast until right on start time so when things are amiss, they do not have any leeway to get it right

(even when they finally come on the sound was dreadful - if only I could get paid for every time the TrotsVision sound is off)

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There seems to be an broadcast/internet problem at Cranbourne as well as Maryborough as I had to go to the reliable TAB stream for R3 as TrotsVision was breaking up (only on TrotsVision)

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With the super professional Ryan, occasional crosses to Dan, it is easy to see why TV has gone with Brittany, Bronte and Kirsten. It always amazes me how they never seem to stumble, always presenting and questioning so superbly

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I LOVE TrotsVision but I am wondering whether it is making us any money?
We are now last on the codes ladder and as the other two do not have their own vision, I am wondering what it is doing for us?
Our creatives (assuming we have some) have to figure out how to make it a money spinner (O/S?)

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We definitely needed a 3rd banana on the desk for the coverage tonight
Too much Steve Cleve, even too much Rob Auber

ps Not sure why they didn't show the Pony Trots!

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Watching TrotsVision tonight while we still have the full Saturday night version (and NO Stevey tonight ;))
It is such a shame that something we have which is better than anybody else's has to go
It is somewhat streamlined with just Ryan, Kirsten and Dan tonight - but they make a perfect line up and all you need

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Streamlined is how it should be for as long as possible as the rumour is that it will become race broadcasts only
SO how can it be that:
"Brett Carroll and David Miles will be part of Saturday night’s TrotsVision coverage"
Unless one of them is doing the out and about interviews and the other compering - I am sorry boys but we cannot afford you

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I didn't watch last night but I see that Milesy WAS doing the out and about interviews!
Who was MC?

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We have got the Victorian harness horse awards being announced between races tonight at Melton tonight
I know I am hearing impaired but whoever is reading the nominees seems to have a frog in his throat and along with some music kicking in when they announce the winner - the audio becomes impossible to decipher

[Lorraine]

It was no better on course

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I know I can be too negative but it is no good having the best intentions but failing in execution

[ryantics]

Kevin, I love Trots Vision also and think it's presented with reasonable professionalism.
Ryan Phelan is far and away the best of all at HRV Media, it would be great if he presented every Saturday night program but I guess that's not possible.
I'm a big fan of Tim O'Connor, a very nice guy from my experience. The cost of production should be covered in part (if not all) by HRA in my opinion, it's worth keeping.

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I am not sure when I last watched Saturday night TrotsVision - there has been Queensland to watch and I don't watch when Stevie is on
But I am thinking that tonight might be the first night where it EXISTS NO MORE
Just like midweek, just the racecaller and not until the mobile is about to be released and that is it :(

It is getting harder and harder to convince oneself that Vic isn't the 4th ranked harness state nowadays

[trish]

Agree Kev, the prizemoney is not great anymore either.
NSW, WA & then QLD.
Your coming 4th.

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I see all the interviews from last night on HRV's fb page and they appear to be done after the winners have got back to the stables.
With someone being paid to produce these WHY aren't they being shown on TrotsVision.
I understand the budget cuts but why not show these and replays between the skeleton coverage of the races

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Was there full coverage of Melton on Saturday night
I just read this on the HRV fb page

"There’s a great card of racing coming up tonight at Melton Entertainment Park. Catch all the behind the scenes action bought to you by Sky Channel, on the Sky Racing Active app or on TrotsVision. Race one kicks off at 5.59pm."

I thought the Vicbred Finals night was just a one off/big nights thing only

I don't think there could have been as the fb replays of the final 400 of each race (which I was praising last week) are not there

[codywinnell]

Worth a watch for those who have been hearing, or feeding, the wildly inflated TrotsVision investment rumours over the journey…


https://fb.watch/v7uFcwUQJe/?

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Don't we have audio with TrotsVision anymore?
2 races down at Charlton but no calls

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I sent a couple of emails after R3 and we now have audio for R4
I can't believe that nobody from HRV etc are tuned in from the get-go