Harness racing shame

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Originally Posted by Thevoiceofreason

Harness racing shame
Well what a year for nsw harness racing!
Why has it taken over 5 months for nsw harness led by Sam Nati and Reid sanders to lay even 1 yes 1 charge against anyone implicated in the nsw corruption scandal. Shame, shame,shame!! You are weak and should resign immediately!!
The police have already run their cases for harness racing to use and there heads are spinning not knowing what to do.
How embarrassing all this going on under their noses and no action taken against anyone involved other than some minor players being warned off. Why pay these people if their Not going to protect our sport???

You must have forgotten you posted this one so I will repost so you like the rest of us have to read your dribble which changes like the wind.

No drama if you do not HRNSW to investigate, but do not then bag them for doing nothing it does not make any sense, but then again why change your habits of a lifetime.

You are missing my point champ....this was going on for years and hrnsw turned a blind eye and did nothing to ensure the integrity of our industry! They dropped the ball and now want to pick it back up after the police have done all the hard yards. BUTT OUT sanders and let a proper law enforcement body take control. This investigation is too valuable for you and your stooge the drunk/wife beater to touch. you guys had your chance and blew it...

Doug, they need to clean out HRNSW full stop because its happend unfer their watch and the buck stops with them.most trot punters were asking for blood 12 months ago and they did nothing.

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Originally Posted by mightymo

i think you're way off the money about the miracle mile. Mr F was outstanding for his 4th, whilst Franco Jamar galloped in the score up. On the other hand, KM sat 4 back the pegs and did nothing. Swap the runs and Mr F beats KM by 20M

I didn't miss the point Harvey , I think you might have .
The point I was making was that in 2 races either side of the MM Karloo was dominated by L M horses, the one race security is used he is competitive against them.
Coincidence ,? luck in running ? good drive ? you can make all the excuses you like but they are the facts.

Mr F outstanding in MM , I beg to diffor , he does no work out the gate or the first Q then slips around to chair in the back straight were he gets cover from stable mate and is under pressure straight away and if you think he wasn't at that stage how come IMQ puts him 3 deep so easily? and then just whacks away all the way down the home straight without looking the winner .
The week before in the cordina he went like a lear jet 1.51.4 hard held, the start after he sits outside S U and and gets beat a breath in track record time..
IMO the runs either side of the MM were far superior performances COINCIDENCE ???

If you would like to have another look at his MM run it is here http://www.trotstv.com.au/?mc=ME261111&rn=8 watch it again and tell me if you still think he went outstanding

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Originally Posted by A BIT DUSTY

I didn't miss the point Harvey , I think you might have .
The point I was making was that in 2 races either side of the MM Karloo was dominated by L M horses, the one race security is used he is competitive against them.
Coincidence ,? luck in running ? good drive ? you can make all the excuses you like but they are the facts.

Mr F outstanding in MM , I beg to diffor , he does no work out the gate or the first Q then slips around to chair in the back straight were he gets cover from stable mate and is under pressure straight away and if you think he wasn't at that stage how come IMQ puts him 3 deep so easily? and then just whacks away all the way down the home straight without looking the winner .
The week before in the cordina he went like a lear jet 1.51.4 hard held, the start after he sits outside S U and and gets beat a breath in track record time..
IMO the runs either side of the MM were far superior performances COINCIDENCE ???

If you would like to have another look at his MM run it is here http://www.trotstv.com.au/?mc=ME261111&rn=8 watch it again and tell me if you still think he went outstanding

Security was used for the Victoria Cup too, and MFG went pretty well, as did FJ.

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Originally Posted by Lucky Camilla"s Lovechild

Security was used for the Victoria Cup too, and MFG went pretty well, as did FJ.

Is the level of security the same each time? i.e. is there 1 security gaurd per horse every time? How far out from the race are security guards watching over the horses?

The security guards used are dumb. They wouldn't know which horse they're guarding. Like a lot of things it looks good and gives everyone a warm fluffy feeling. In reality achieves very little.

Good on ya Tiny . You said it as it is . The security guards are , IMO , would be if they could be rejects from the police force , most unable to put a sentence together . They , IMO , are the most easilly corrupted bunch of misfits and cons .

Lou Pena was banned from Yonkers in the United States for his domination of Harness Racing without a positive swab. "Through July 29 he was the leading trainer with 238 wins. Mark Ford was a distant second with 79 victories."
Open this link or otherwise type "Lou Pena banned" into Google.
http://www.harnessracingupdate.com/r...u/hru08011.pdf
Someone mentioned a trainer with a strike rate of near 50% when you take into account multiple runners. I wonder how far off that is from Lou Pena?

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Originally Posted by Lucky Camilla"s Lovechild

Security was used for the Victoria Cup too, and MFG went pretty well, as did FJ.

Leigh are you sure????

This says otherwise Harness Racing Magazine - Home www.mobilerolling.com/18 Dec 2011 – "It's great to finally win the Victoria Cup, it's a race he thoroughly deserved to have on his .... 27 November 2011 - Smoken Up, Australian harness racing's best-ever .... racing stewards did not put one-to-one security on each horse on Cup Day I ...

You might know better than Lance ???????

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Originally Posted by tiny

The security guards used are dumb. They wouldn't know which horse they're guarding. Like a lot of things it looks good and gives everyone a warm fluffy feeling. In reality achieves very little.

Tell that garbage to the trainers of Christian Cullen, Robin Hood and Safari, (just to name a few) And see what sort of response you get from them.