http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=22313
Are we going to see a flurry of positives?
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http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=22313
Are we going to see a flurry of positives?
Nowadays it is bloody hard to defend the racing industry - may as well just stick to barracking for the Bombers OOPS
Seems there has been 6 positives to this in Nsw harness although non yet in Gallops.
Seems like it is the same as Epo and can cause a horse to collapse and even die.Can be administered by needle or tablet.
Dare say we need to wait and to see the outcome.
6 positives? haven't seen any do you know something we dont ?
Gallops no positives because they once again behind the eight ball.
http://forum.thoroughbredvillage.com...opic48586.html
What a cool name for a racehorse!
That is the story that led the back page of The Age this morning. It is very hard to follow as the first line says Racing authorities admit to not having the means to test for it and then in the middle of the story it says 'Bailey said Racing Victoria had been warned a year ago about the effects of cobalt chloride, and that he instructed his panel to test extensively over the spring carnival. He said no high readings have been discovered.'
Another article in The Age today which hones in on NSWharnesss again and contains a table of findings from the last 30mths but I do not see Cobalt.
http://theage.digitaleditions.com.au...&view=ZW50aXR5
If you had to have a bet, you'd reckon there's a fair chance at least one trainer has used/is using the stuff. It's the nature of our gain. Someone will always take an advantage (legal or otherwise) if they can get one. Be interesting to see if any trainer's results dip after recent publicity.
Who and where are the six positives as stated by you then Barney?
Good work Trish and Barney.
Chief Steward Ray Murrihy has warned Racing NSW officials will step up surveillance and testing measures. Source: News Limited
CHIEF steward Ray Murrihy has downplayed suggestions a new performance-enhancing drug is being used in NSW racing.
But Murrihy warned Racing NSW officials will step up surveillance and testing measures after the drug cobalt chloride was found to be in use the harness racing code.
"This substance has been around for 12 months or more in harness racing,'' Murrihy revealed.
"We are well aware of it and if cobalt chloride is in use elsewhere, we must be alive to the prospect someone might experiment with it in the gallops.
"If this is an issue in harness racing, then we won't put our heads in the sand and say it won't happen here.
"There is no intelligence to suggest that is the case in NSW racing but we (stewards) are on top of it and keeping a close eye on things.''
The drug cobalt chloride stimulates a horse's system to produce more erythropoietin thus increasing stamina and endurance.
There has been six positive tests to cobalt chloride in NSW harness racing and the drug has been detected in US racing.
I know what is on the internet various sites as much as you guys
What i put on the other site was a pure fact undisputable that a horse from the Triton stable and also a galloper from the Moody stable have collapsed and died at the races recently .I also said coincidental only time will tell i guess
What part of the is shit as you said none undisputable horses did collaspe and die
That is what I read in The Age and tried to link in post 8 Trish - thanks for doing a better job than me
I wonder if all this has something to do with the thread Danno started 2 weeks ago under the title 'Hope yet' ?
That is interesting to say the least on at least 2 reports i read they quoted harness has had 6 positives.
As i have said we will just have to wait and see
Thanks again Trish. The supposed 6 positives did not really make sense as the newspaper articles had a table of positives and none were for cobalt
What throws me is they stated in those reports that one positive was over 3500mls seems like an interesting period ahead as someone must have supplied them that info 200 is the allowable limit and that is said to be generous.
Brian that limit of 200 has been set since the positive. From my understanding there has been quite a lot of work thrown at coming up with a limit that is both accurately and consistently detectable.
cheers,
Dan
Dan in light of the harness .org news release that has been posted on here where they deny positives.I am now more confused as they say irregularities and have been sent for further testing.To me that means some have tested positive and sent for confirmation.
Is this what you were alluding to in your other thread .Hope yet.
All I can say Brian, is that from my information the Cobalt issue is real, and as one would suspect a little more widespread than first thought, it appears news can travel fast when there is an advantage to be had.
Cheers,
Dan
It seems that this thread is full from start to end with numerous "inaccuracies" even despite the official releases on the subject by governing bodies.
Cobalt Chloride exists in several feed preparations. It is also to occur naturally as a trace element. Hence those governing bodies with real concerns and given some thought to the initial concerns and pending further substantive studies have placed a threshold level on its presence in test samples.
The presence of cobalt chloride in a test sample is not a positive swab.
As HRNSW have been at pains to state their has been no "Positive" detections by them. They have actively refuted the claims of others of 6 positive tests within their jurisdiction.
They are the only body currently testing for excesses in Cobalt Chloride.
The claims being made by others in the media and on this forum are not, therefore substantiated.
This thread remains open in the interim pending some substantiation of the claims made. If that is not possible then move on.
Trish, thanks for radio interview...would be great to have heard from Reid Sanders as he was about to be interviewed. Can you get your hands on that? This is all pretty new to me this cobalt stuff, but from what I have heard and read about, the authorities are aware of its (improper) use and have been for a while now. Cannot fault the regulatory boys approach to this thus far, they have to be cautious in working out what would be an acceptable level within an animal in training and racing. Cheats do their best to stay ahead of the game, the labs are always playing catch up, but all that investment by HRNSW may well be paying dividends after the Green Light Scandal...they have taken the lead on this one.
Don't know what you are all going on about, according to Teecee, we should all be moving on! Apparently there is no issue! HAhAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Thats Gold Teecee!!